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- From: kanze@lts.sel.alcatel.de (James Kanze US/ESC 60/3/141 #40763)
- Subject: Re: Undefined result vs. int's holding undefined values.
- In-Reply-To: larry.jones@sdrc.com's message of 9 Jan 1996 19:58:54 GMT
- Message-ID: <KANZE.96Jan10105153@slsvewt.lts.sel.alcatel.de>
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- <4cpv1n$apm@der.twinsun.com> <4cuhdu$ff2@info1.sdrc.com>
- Date: 10 Jan 1996 09:51:52 GMT
-
- In article <4cuhdu$ff2@info1.sdrc.com> larry.jones@sdrc.com (Larry
- Jones) writes:
-
- |> In article <4cpv1n$apm@der.twinsun.com>, eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert) writes:
- |> > Since this is comp.std.c, I'll mention that the (x + y < x) != (y < 0) method
- |> > and Daniel Wood's example both port to any C implementation
- |> > claiming conformance to LIA-1 (ISO/IEC 10967-1:1994(E),
- |> > `Information technology -- Language independent arithmetic -- Part 1:
- |> > Integer floating point arithmetic' <ftp://crl.dec.com/pub/misc/lia-1-dis.ps.Z>)
- |> > if INT_MODULO is true (which is the only plausible value for INT_MODULO
- |> > for real-world C compilers).
-
- |> The current thinking about binding LIA-1 to C allows signed and unsiged
- |> integers to have different behavior. Whilst unsigned integers *have*
- |> to be MODULO for standard conformance, there is no good reason for
- |> signed integers to be the same (other than that many existing machine
- |> architectures make it very inconvenient to have them be different).
- |> Some (many?) people think that raising an exception of some kind for
- |> signed integer overflow is very desirable, rather than allowing the
- |> answer to quietly wrap around.
-
- Actually, at least some people think that raising an exception would
- be desirable for unsigned as well:-). The problem (in C, at least),
- in addition to breaking existing code, is that you do need some type
- for which the modulo arithmetic is well defined.
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